Comments on: The Global Warming Swindle http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/03/12/the-global-warming-swindle/ Toujours Le Meme Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:11:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: sophia http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/03/12/the-global-warming-swindle/#comment-2723 sophia Wed, 21 Mar 2007 01:47:58 +0000 http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/03/12/293/#comment-2723 Is 'Greener skies' a metaphor or is the word 'green' now being inserted carelessely in political speeches ? Is ‘Greener skies’ a metaphor or is the word ‘green’ now being inserted carelessely in political speeches ?

]]> By: xoggoth http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/03/12/the-global-warming-swindle/#comment-2720 xoggoth Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:30:47 +0000 http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/03/12/293/#comment-2720 Doesn't that phrase, especially coupled with those two, make any sane person cringe? Doesn’t that phrase, especially coupled with those two, make any sane person cringe?

]]> By: Wolfie http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/03/12/the-global-warming-swindle/#comment-2716 Wolfie Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:32:14 +0000 http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/03/12/293/#comment-2716 Agendas yes, conspiracy or iffy science no not really. Just because scientists don't mention something doesn't mean that they are hiding something, its usually because that avenue was discredited years ago and everyone has moved on to where the new action is. I think Stef you are expecting an "ah-ha" moment with climate science but its not like that its an extremely complex subject and each set of data has its good and bad points. Last year I finally threw away my old undergraduate notes. I had a quick flick-through to reminisce and came across my notes on high altitude fluid-dynamics. Each page of A4 notes was a single iteration of the calculation. Yes, one formula per page. If you asked me to explain any of that in layman's terms I'd be pretty stumped. Agendas yes, conspiracy or iffy science no not really.

Just because scientists don’t mention something doesn’t mean that they are hiding something, its usually because that avenue was discredited years ago and everyone has moved on to where the new action is.

I think Stef you are expecting an “ah-ha” moment with climate science but its not like that its an extremely complex subject and each set of data has its good and bad points.

Last year I finally threw away my old undergraduate notes. I had a quick flick-through to reminisce and came across my notes on high altitude fluid-dynamics. Each page of A4 notes was a single iteration of the calculation. Yes, one formula per page. If you asked me to explain any of that in layman’s terms I’d be pretty stumped.

]]> By: Stef http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/03/12/the-global-warming-swindle/#comment-2712 Stef Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:36:38 +0000 http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/03/12/293/#comment-2712 The 'lag' issue was one of the most interesting points raised in the program. And many comments I've seen on the Net since the show was broadcast demonstrate that a lot of people didn't even realise that there was an issue there. Which says an awful lot about the manner in which the supposed public debate about Global Warming has been conducted. As well as the 'lag' issue there's another quirk to the data that the program didn't mention and that is historic CO2 levels have continued to rise even after temperatures have peaked and started to fall. Behaviour that is much more consistent with CO2 being an indicator rather than a driver for climate change. Whether we are in any more trouble than 5, 50 or 500 years ago is a debatable point. The more reliant we become on advanced and energy-intensive technology to keep a larger number of people in greater comfort the more inherently fragile that system becomes but that would hold regardless of whether the weather was changing or not. There are some seriously iffy ideologies and agendas being hidden behind the current bout of climate change hysteria and those people with a perfectly sensible desire to treat our environment decently should keep on eye open on some of the characters driving the movements pushing Climate Change hysteria. As a general rule of thumb, hysterical mobs aren't well-known for their powers of reasoning The ‘lag’ issue was one of the most interesting points raised in the program. And many comments I’ve seen on the Net since the show was broadcast demonstrate that a lot of people didn’t even realise that there was an issue there. Which says an awful lot about the manner in which the supposed public debate about Global Warming has been conducted.

As well as the ‘lag’ issue there’s another quirk to the data that the program didn’t mention and that is historic CO2 levels have continued to rise even after temperatures have peaked and started to fall. Behaviour that is much more consistent with CO2 being an indicator rather than a driver for climate change.

Whether we are in any more trouble than 5, 50 or 500 years ago is a debatable point. The more reliant we become on advanced and energy-intensive technology to keep a larger number of people in greater comfort the more inherently fragile that system becomes but that would hold regardless of whether the weather was changing or not.

There are some seriously iffy ideologies and agendas being hidden behind the current bout of climate change hysteria and those people with a perfectly sensible desire to treat our environment decently should keep on eye open on some of the characters driving the movements pushing Climate Change hysteria. As a general rule of thumb, hysterical mobs aren’t well-known for their powers of reasoning

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