More Swindling

Wolfie — March 13, 2007, 8:49 pm

Well the debate is raging over the C4 film “The Global Warming Swindle” and for the most part the program and the climate deniers are losing, big-time. You see this sort of program does have its value if it helps iron out a few kinks in the way that science is presented to the public and the press do a woefully bad job of doing that.

The arguments coming out from the fact-checkers have certainly been helpful.

First of all it turns out that a majority of the people presented on the program as experts in the field were not actually experts in climate at all.

Then it even turns out that one of the most reputable men presented (Carl Wunsch) was actually totally misrepresented and is very upset about it. Find his email reproduced here :

Mr. Steven Green
Head of Production
Wag TV
2D Leroy House
436 Essex Road
London N1 3QP
 
10 March 2007
 
Dear Mr. Green:
 
I am writing to record what I told you on the telephone yesterday about
your Channel 4 film “The Global Warming Swindle.” Fundamentally,
I am the one who was swindled—please read the email below that
was sent to me (and re-sent by you). Based upon this email and
subsequent telephone conversations, and discussions with
the Director, Martin Durkin, I thought I was being asked
to appear in a film that would discuss in a balanced way
the complicated elements of understanding of climate change—
in the best traditions of British television. Is there any indication
in the email evident to an outsider that the product would be
so tendentious, so unbalanced?
 
I was approached, as explained to me on the telephone, because
I was known to have been unhappy with some of the more excitable
climate-change stories in the
British media, most conspicuously the notion that the Gulf
Stream could disappear, among others.
When a journalist approaches me suggesting a “critical approach” to a
technical subject, as the email states, my inference is that we
are to discuss which elements are contentious, why they are contentious,
and what the arguments are on all sides. To a scientist, “critical” does
not mean a hatchet job—it means a thorough-going examination of
the science. The scientific subjects described in the email,
and in the previous and subsequent telephone conversations, are complicated,
worthy of exploration, debate, and an educational effort with the
public. Hence my willingness to participate. Had the words “polemic”, or
“swindle” appeared in these preliminary discussions, I would have
instantly declined to be involved.
 
I spent hours in the interview describing
many of the problems of understanding the ocean in climate change,
and the ways in which some of the more dramatic elements get
exaggerated in the media relative to more realistic, potentially
truly catastrophic issues, such as
the implications of the oncoming sea level rise. As I made clear, both in the
preliminary discussions, and in the interview itself, I believe that
global warming is a very serious threat that needs equally serious
discussion and no one seeing this film could possibly deduce that.
 
What we now have is an out-and-out propaganda piece, in which
there is not even a gesture toward balance or explanation of why
many of the extended inferences drawn in the film are not widely
accepted by the scientific community. There are so many examples,
it’s hard to know where to begin, so I will cite only one:
a speaker asserts, as is true, that carbon dioxide is only
a small fraction of the atmospheric mass. The viewer is left to
infer that means it couldn’t really matter. But even a beginning
meteorology student could tell you that the relative masses of gases
are irrelevant to their effects on radiative balance. A director
not intending to produce pure propaganda would have tried to eliminate that
piece of disinformation.
 
An example where my own discussion was grossly distorted by context:
I am shown explaining that a warming ocean could expel more
carbon dioxide than it absorbs — thus exacerbating the greenhouse
gas buildup in the atmosphere and hence worrisome. It
was used in the film, through its context, to imply
that CO2 is all natural, coming from the ocean, and that
therefore the human element is irrelevant. This use of my remarks, which
are literally what I said, comes close to fraud.
 
I have some experience in dealing with TV and print reporters
and do understand something of the ways in which one can be
misquoted, quoted out of context, or otherwise misinterpreted. Some
of that is inevitable in the press of time or space or in discussions of
complicated issues. Never before, however, have I had
an experience like this one. My appearance in the “Global Warming
Swindle” is deeply embarrasing, and my professional reputation
has been damaged. I was duped—an uncomfortable position in which to be.
 
At a minimum, I ask that the film should never be seen again publicly
with my participation included. Channel 4 surely owes an apology to
its viewers, and perhaps WAGTV owes something to Channel 4. I will be
taking advice as to whether I should proceed to make some more formal protest.
 
Sincerely,
 
Carl Wunsch
Cecil and Ida Green Professor of
Physical Oceanography
Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Added to this I’ll admit on reading some of the rebuttal arguments I’m realising that quite a lot of the data presented was quite badly distorted and I missed it.

In short it was mostly rubbish.

Excellent debate going on on this thread at Real Climate about the whole thing.

See also : Cosmic Red Herrings Heat Climate Debate

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  1. Comment by Question Authoority @ March 14, 2007, 8:07 am

    Real Climate site having a debate?

    That is a farce.

    Most of my more controversial comments were deleted, some after they were initially posted.

    It seems that site can’t take any serious criticism of the global warming crowd.

    I love the way they think that if something is “peer-reviewed”, it must be true. They are as much true believers as the most fundamentalist christians.

  2. Comment by Wolfie @ March 14, 2007, 10:02 am

    Perhaps you would like to offer an example of what you deem to be a “controversial comment” exactly. Then we could discuss it, I’m quite happy to discuss anything you like.

    I can understand why the moderator might decide to delete some comments as its quite common in matters like these for uninformed individuals to “bog down” the discussion with inane or irrational arguments or presenting resolutely discredited material repetitiously.

    Peer review is merely a scientific approach which increases certainly or validity. Nobody is selling absolutes only degrees of certainty to use as a stepping-stone towards a more refined model in the future.

    It stands to reason; if my research cannot be repeated then I’m incompetent or a fraud.

  3. Comment by Stef @ March 14, 2007, 4:46 pm

    That piece you linked to on climatedenial.org is somewhat selective about which of the scientists who appeared on the show it decides to subject to an ad hominem attack. There was some solid evidence from some solid guys, a couple of whom were actually in the IPCC.

    There was cack in that program sure enough, but there’s a heap of cack in an ‘Inconvenient Truth’ too but that cack, of course, suits a higher purpose and gets a free pass.

    The issues raised by the C02 vs. temperature lag from ice core data have most certainly not been properly addressed. Nor has the fact that many of the supposed indicators of recent climate change fit quite happily into the range of historical variability

    Sad to say there are bullshitters and shills on both sides of the debate but what’s new about that? What this does represent is a loss of innocence, for some people at least, when it comes to holding up popular science and scientists as paragons of virtue. They’re not. They’re just people same as the rest of us, with all the flaws that go with that

  4. Comment by jameshigham @ March 15, 2007, 10:22 am

    All of what you say is so. Now, the real problem is your utilization of ‘loosing’, meaning ‘releasing’, as distinct from ‘losing’ which in the English language means ‘not winning’.

    Wolfie : Well spotted James, pardon my typo. Now corrected.

  5. Comment by Wolfie @ March 15, 2007, 7:33 pm

    I don’t know about that Stef, I’ve not done a body count but it doesn’t leave enough “experts” in the documentary standing to give it enough weight to be entirely credible. Cheating on Dr. Wunsch like that is serious too.

    Yes I agree that some of AIT was bad but its main error was over-simplification; comparing the two side by side it was a lot better documentary than this one.

    Yes, I have said the CO2/t lag is a debatable issue so I agree with you on that issue but its not sufficient evidence to knock flat the whole of climate science - it simply requires more vigorous investigation. However I disagree that current trends “fit happily” into historical variability - yes the world has been hotter but not got hot so fast nor with such fast extinction rate and the documentary distorted that data quite dishonestly.

    You don’t need to tell me how flawed scientists are, it was my childhood dream to do research but the reality was far short of what I expected [that's another story] but that doesn’t make them wicked or wrong [barring the odd bad apple].

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