Comments on: The Lie of the Land http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/the-lie-of-the-land/ Toujours Le Meme Mon, 08 Sep 2008 02:33:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Wolfie http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/the-lie-of-the-land/#comment-2784 Wolfie Tue, 22 May 2007 12:49:54 +0000 http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/308/#comment-2784 Very true Sophia. When I was a boy in the '70s the choice of food was far more limited than it is today however the vegetables were higher quality and kept for a week or two in a cool larder. Now we have extensive choice but but the vegetables have to be eaten within a few days, necessitating more frequent visits to the supermarket. It didn't really hurt me to have to wait until the strawberry season to eat strawberries either. Ironically Burgul is more nutritious than rice. Very true Sophia. When I was a boy in the ’70s the choice of food was far more limited than it is today however the vegetables were higher quality and kept for a week or two in a cool larder. Now we have extensive choice but but the vegetables have to be eaten within a few days, necessitating more frequent visits to the supermarket. It didn’t really hurt me to have to wait until the strawberry season to eat strawberries either.

Ironically Burgul is more nutritious than rice.

]]> By: Sophia http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/the-lie-of-the-land/#comment-2783 Sophia Tue, 22 May 2007 11:40:01 +0000 http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/308/#comment-2783 Yesterday, there was a program on Radio Canada in which they asked four of their reporters dispatched in four different locations and climates (from Los Angeles to New Foundland), to cook a whole meal made of food produced within a perimeter less than 200kms from where they live. The result was quite astonishing. It brought to life totally forgottten food. I remember when I was a child that we didn't eat rice because it was not produced locally. Instead we ate Burgul (wheat). But as rice was introduced to the market the snobery code entered our lives at the same time and it was only the poor who ate Burgul while the rich ate rice...But this is market economy... Yesterday, there was a program on Radio Canada in which they asked four of their reporters dispatched in four different locations and climates (from Los Angeles to New Foundland), to cook a whole meal made of food produced within a perimeter less than 200kms from where they live. The result was quite astonishing. It brought to life totally forgottten food.
I remember when I was a child that we didn’t eat rice because it was not produced locally. Instead we ate Burgul (wheat). But as rice was introduced to the market the snobery code entered our lives at the same time and it was only the poor who ate Burgul while the rich ate rice…But this is market economy…

]]> By: jameshigham http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/the-lie-of-the-land/#comment-2781 jameshigham Mon, 21 May 2007 20:23:52 +0000 http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/308/#comment-2781 ...has allowed them to dictate prices to the farmers without recourse to sustainability of the market... Again - short-termism. The disease is over here in a big way too. …has allowed them to dictate prices to the farmers without recourse to sustainability of the market…

Again - short-termism. The disease is over here in a big way too.

]]> By: Stef http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/the-lie-of-the-land/#comment-2779 Stef Fri, 11 May 2007 20:17:17 +0000 http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/308/#comment-2779 Yup, I understand where you're coming from re. the Capitalism thing. The problem is that there is a deliberately cultivated mismatch between the popular perception of what capitalism entails and how it is actually being practiced today Re. the Ripper thing - I wouldn't buy into that particular theory either except for the fact that the killings do seem to have had a ritualistic element (maybe) so the book's still open on that one AFAIC... Yup, I understand where you’re coming from re. the Capitalism thing. The problem is that there is a deliberately cultivated mismatch between the popular perception of what capitalism entails and how it is actually being practiced today

Re. the Ripper thing - I wouldn’t buy into that particular theory either except for the fact that the killings do seem to have had a ritualistic element (maybe) so the book’s still open on that one AFAIC…

]]> By: Wolfie http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/the-lie-of-the-land/#comment-2776 Wolfie Fri, 11 May 2007 17:08:31 +0000 http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/308/#comment-2776 To be honest Stef, I find it quite odd that most critics of the debt-money system seem to be more than a little cranky. Either that or they become fully-fledged anti-capitalists whereas I don't think there's anything wrong with Capitalism, I am concerned with the way that it has become corrupted by the institutions who are supposed to police and guide it. The current zeitgeist in free-market fundamentalism isn't helping either as it allows the corrupt to hide their trail all the more effectively. No I don't buy that theory in the Ripper case. I think it was just plain ordinary East-End Anti-Semitics, maybe to misdirect the enquiry maybe even unconnected. To be honest Stef, I find it quite odd that most critics of the debt-money system seem to be more than a little cranky. Either that or they become fully-fledged anti-capitalists whereas I don’t think there’s anything wrong with Capitalism, I am concerned with the way that it has become corrupted by the institutions who are supposed to police and guide it. The current zeitgeist in free-market fundamentalism isn’t helping either as it allows the corrupt to hide their trail all the more effectively.

No I don’t buy that theory in the Ripper case. I think it was just plain ordinary East-End Anti-Semitics, maybe to misdirect the enquiry maybe even unconnected.

]]> By: Stef http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/the-lie-of-the-land/#comment-2775 Stef Fri, 11 May 2007 15:15:08 +0000 http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/308/#comment-2775 So Mr Wolfie you don't buy into the theory that the JtR 'Juwes' comment refers to Masonic ritual and is nothing to do with Jews at all? So Mr Wolfie you don’t buy into the theory that the JtR ‘Juwes’ comment refers to Masonic ritual and is nothing to do with Jews at all?

]]> By: Stef http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/the-lie-of-the-land/#comment-2774 Stef Fri, 11 May 2007 15:11:01 +0000 http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/308/#comment-2774 Russo comes across as a guy who is upset that he is being prosecuted for non-payment of taxes - which, in fact, is what he is. There is some decent material in his film but it is not original work and it is not well presented. The Money Masters is better but it is dated, too US specific, and takes several hours to communicate information that could better be presented in 40 minutes. Most films and writings on the subject of the Fed source heavily from Eustace Mulllins... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eustace_Mullins#Writings By accident, or by design, many of the people and groups who have attacked the debt-money system tend to be on the cranky side and their output is consequently flawed. With that in mind, this pamphlet includes some decent insights for non-specialist readers... http://www.michaeljournal.org/myth.htm Economist Michael Hudson also says some interesting things though, once again, he can go off the rails and say some peculiar things sometimes http://www.michael-hudson.com/ Russo comes across as a guy who is upset that he is being prosecuted for non-payment of taxes - which, in fact, is what he is. There is some decent material in his film but it is not original work and it is not well presented. The Money Masters is better but it is dated, too US specific, and takes several hours to communicate information that could better be presented in 40 minutes.

Most films and writings on the subject of the Fed source heavily from Eustace Mulllins…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eustace_Mullins#Writings

By accident, or by design, many of the people and groups who have attacked the debt-money system tend to be on the cranky side and their output is consequently flawed. With that in mind, this pamphlet includes some decent insights for non-specialist readers…

http://www.michaeljournal.org/myth.htm

Economist Michael Hudson also says some interesting things though, once again, he can go off the rails and say some peculiar things sometimes

http://www.michael-hudson.com/

]]> By: homeyra http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/the-lie-of-the-land/#comment-2771 homeyra Wed, 09 May 2007 12:29:28 +0000 http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/308/#comment-2771 Thanks for your reply. Maybe you'll have time sometimes to see the Money Masters - links above. It is an interesting movie as it is presents some financial issues in a way which is understandable for non experts, but again a person who is in the field should advise. Thanks for your reply.
Maybe you’ll have time sometimes to see the Money Masters - links above. It is an interesting movie as it is presents some financial issues in a way which is understandable for non experts, but again a person who is in the field should advise.

]]> By: Wolfie http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/the-lie-of-the-land/#comment-2770 Wolfie Wed, 09 May 2007 09:56:47 +0000 http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/308/#comment-2770 Prior to your comment I was not aware of Aaron Russo's work. I have taken a look at some reviews and viewed the first 15 minutes of the movie. Broadly speaking I agree with his synopsis regarding the role of the Federal reserve but regard his stance on taxation as rather "Cranky", I found his movie somewhat trite and condescending with an uncomfortable "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_the_ripper" rel="nofollow">The Juwes are not The men That Will be Blamed for nothing</a>." sub-text. I was not impressed with this amateur attempt at economics. Mr. Liu's site is more interesting and in broad terms I agree with his sentiments on global liquidity, dollar valuation and globalization. His style gets a bit "ranty" in places and some of his analysis regarding ancient history are somewhere between speculative and down-right bonkers, nevertheless his contemporary analysis is mostly sound. Prior to your comment I was not aware of Aaron Russo’s work. I have taken a look at some reviews and viewed the first 15 minutes of the movie. Broadly speaking I agree with his synopsis regarding the role of the Federal reserve but regard his stance on taxation as rather “Cranky”, I found his movie somewhat trite and condescending with an uncomfortable “The Juwes are not The men That Will be Blamed for nothing.” sub-text. I was not impressed with this amateur attempt at economics.

Mr. Liu’s site is more interesting and in broad terms I agree with his sentiments on global liquidity, dollar valuation and globalization. His style gets a bit “ranty” in places and some of his analysis regarding ancient history are somewhere between speculative and down-right bonkers, nevertheless his contemporary analysis is mostly sound.

]]> By: homeyra http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/the-lie-of-the-land/#comment-2768 homeyra Tue, 08 May 2007 15:06:39 +0000 http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/308/#comment-2768 Hi, I was directed here through Sophia's blog. I have a question not related to this post, but you are the only one I know in finance ...! I guess you know about Aaron Russo's movie, and maybe <a href="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-8753934454816686947&hl=en" rel="nofollow">this video</a>. If so, do you think their points valid in general? I came recently across <a href="http://www.henryckliu.com/" rel="nofollow">Henry CK Liu</a>, and I found his article very interesting. Thanks. Hi, I was directed here through Sophia’s blog. I have a question not related to this post, but you are the only one I know in finance …!
I guess you know about Aaron Russo’s movie, and maybe this video. If so, do you think their points valid in general?
I came recently across Henry CK Liu, and I found his article very interesting.
Thanks.

]]> By: Wolfie http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/the-lie-of-the-land/#comment-2767 Wolfie Sun, 06 May 2007 17:01:18 +0000 http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/308/#comment-2767 They're aware of it James but they turn a blind eye. This is corruption plain and simple and it leads to the grand lie that is the centrepiece of Globalization itself. They’re aware of it James but they turn a blind eye. This is corruption plain and simple and it leads to the grand lie that is the centrepiece of Globalization itself.

]]> By: jameshigham http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/the-lie-of-the-land/#comment-2766 jameshigham Sun, 06 May 2007 16:13:22 +0000 http://blog.twowolves.co.uk/2007/05/06/308/#comment-2766 ...strict guidelines on farming methods and quality only for the supermarkets to then be able to source their products from countries which do not impose these strict standards... Therein lies the problem. So why aren't Britain and the EU aware of it? …strict guidelines on farming methods and quality only for the supermarkets to then be able to source their products from countries which do not impose these strict standards…

Therein lies the problem. So why aren’t Britain and the EU aware of it?

]]>